[CNYBBA-LISTSERV] Reaffirmations.

[Louis L. Levine]

 a mixed question; i would argue that there has been no reaff; if the debtor were to default later i think a judge would say that the incompleted Part D makes the entire agreement incomplete and unenforceable; but that just puts you back into state court, and the creditor still needs a basis to repo, so that if payments are current the creditor will have to rely on another event of default ( judges sometimes call  non-payment defaults "technical" defaults, but they are still very real)
 

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From: cnybba-bounces at cnybba.org [mailto:cnybba-bounces at cnybba.org]On Behalf Of Ted Araujo
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 1:56 PM
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Further Query:  If the reaffirmation agreement is signed and timely received (within 45 days after the 341 meeting) but does not contain the schedule "D" information is the creditor allowed to repossess the collateral if the payments are current?

 

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From: cnybba-bounces at cnybba.org [mailto:cnybba-bounces at cnybba.org] On Behalf Of Ruth Babbitt
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 3:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [CNYBBA-LISTSERV] Reaffirmations.

 

Father need not sign reaffirmation agreement because son's discharge will not affect father's obligation. Section 524(e). I assume your concerns here are founded on Sections 521(a)(2)/362(h)(1) and Section 521(a)(6), which when read together with Section 521(d) give life to insolvency/bankruptcy ipso facto clauses and effectively eliminate the so-called "fourth" (Boodrow) option on obligations secured by personal property. However, if the debtor reaffirms within the time (30 days?/45 days?) so limited, those provisions are defused.

Query. Suppose son is willing to reaffirm for the full car loan amount, but refuses to sign the reaffirmation prepared by lender's counsel because it adds lender's counsel's attorney's fees to the loan amount. Is son protected by Section 362(h)(1)(B) provision that reads: "unless such statement [of intention] specifies the debtor's intention to reaffirm such debt on the original contract terms and the creditor refuses to agree to the reaffirmation on such terms." ? In other words, is the creditor's request for attorney's fees something beyond the original contract terms - even if the contract contains an attorney's fees clause in lender's favor? 

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From: cnybba-bounces at cnybba.org [mailto:cnybba-bounces at cnybba.org]On Behalf Of TampaStomp at aol.com
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Subject: [CNYBBA-LISTSERV] Reaffirmations.

Question:

 

    Father and son are on title to car and are co-obligors.  Father files Chapter 7 Bankruptcy.  Does father need to sign reaffirmation agreement?  Son is in possession of car and is making the payments.  If father does not sign reaffirmation agreement, may lender repossess the car from the son?

 

    Your thoughts are appreciated.

 

Russell


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